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alphaharps
2:15 Wed Nov 5
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i dont think Jews should disparage immigration
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13 Brentford Rd
3:16 Wed Nov 5
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er I'm not disparaging immigration, just the amount and pace of it in recent times like everyone else is.
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alphaharps
3:25 Wed Nov 5
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we are immigrants 13BR, how many generations back are you?
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13 Brentford Rd
3:27 Wed Nov 5
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My great Grand Parents came over from Russia and Georgia at the turn of the last century so I am 3rd generation.
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Old Master Painter
3:35 Wed Nov 5
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I've worked in a Polish accountancy firm whose main task was to help people claim working tax credits and other benefits by faking self employment.
Clients would sit in the office and be paired up with one another to document some fake work they did for one another.
The hard working foreigner is a myth. Some see this country as a new start so they find work which they do about as well one of us (unless language skills are important). Others come to take advantage of our lenient and easily exploited system.
They certainly aren't a blessing on our society and we would be better off with a reduction in their numbers.
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cholo
3:44 Wed Nov 5
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Old Master Painter 3:35 Wed Nov 5
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I've worked in a Polish accountancy firm whose main task was to help people claim working tax credits and other benefits by faking self employment
Did you report this fraud to the police or are you an accessory?
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alphaharps
3:45 Wed Nov 5
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same as me 13BR, mine came from Russia/Poland (on my maternal side)
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The Joker
3:48 Wed Nov 5
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"The hard working foreigner is a myth. Some see this country as a new start so they find work which they do about as well one of us (unless language skills are important). Others come to take advantage of our lenient and easily exploited system. "
So, much like the indigenous population then?
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HammerFan43
3:54 Wed Nov 5
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Pointless thread. We all have differing views.
For my part I want the Australian way of handing immigration. Close the borders and only have those who will benefit the country.
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Seppuku
4:11 Wed Nov 5
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This is just an assumption based upon an assumption which in turn is based upon another assumption.
For instance the 4.4b benefit is only real if by not coming to the UK these jobs were not undertaken by those here already. I suspect at least a % of the jobs would have been done by people already here which in turn would have likely led to a reduction in benefits being claimed.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:14 Wed Nov 5
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SHALOM Alpha.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:15 Wed Nov 5
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Seppuku 4:11 Wed Nov 5
Exactly my point earlier.
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Hermit Road
5:04 Wed Nov 5
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I like the way the BBC, Guardian, Financial Times, Independant lead with the relatively small net gain from EU migrants as opposed to the absolutely colossal losses with non EU migrants.
Anyway these things are always too broad brush to make any sense. Lumping all migrants together and working out the net gain/loss just doesn't make sense unless someone is arguing for either a total end to immigration or a totally open door policy. I would have thought that a sensible immigration policy would allow people in who were going to add value whilst not letting people in who are going to be a drain.
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Joke Whole
5:18 Wed Nov 5
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IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER where your parents grandparents or whole fucking ancestral tree came from. The problem is simply one of adding to the TOO MANY people in a country that is struggling to support those already there.
Stop ALL immigration by claiming we can't afford any more inbound until we have a handle on what we already have.
If the EU kick up a stink simply say we can't afford any more of you lot because you're syphoning off any money we would have had to pay for them (immigrants) to pay for you.
Have companies sponsor 100% any skilled workers they want from outside the UK.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:20 Wed Nov 5
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Agree, companies should be responsible for workers they bring over!
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After8
5:31 Wed Nov 5
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Stop ALL immigration by claiming we can't afford any more inbound until we have a handle on what we already have.
If the EU kick up a stink simply say we can't afford any more of you lot because you're syphoning off any money we would have had to pay for them (immigrants) to pay for you.
That on paper sounds all very well and good but if you pull up the drawbridge and say not one immigrant more you're going to find all the British people living outside the UK will be sent back in as countries make reliatory strikes.
Now you may say fine they're British but if you've got a plan to cope with an extra million pensioners all needing housing, gps, dentists, the library, bus passes, TV licences and welfare payments then let me know.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:32 Wed Nov 5
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We wouldn't be sending them back though 8, just stopping anymore spongers from coming in.
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Dwight Van Mann
5:36 Wed Nov 5
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After8 5:31 Wed Nov 5
So Spain and France would send back all the wealthy British pensioners out of spite? Don't fucking think so, them and their bloated pension books are a god send. Especially to the Spanish.
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After8
5:36 Wed Nov 5
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What this report shows is the government was right to put in immigration controls on non eu workers. Non eu immigration is down. The recent rise in immigration has come from southern eu countries.
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After8
5:37 Wed Nov 5
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But Brentford they don't all sponge. Now of you're saying they shouldn't get a penny for three, five years then I agree with you but the problem is too much of the debate is filled with " send them all back" and " pull up the drawbridge" without any actual plan.
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riosleftsock
5:39 Wed Nov 5
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8, have the tories got a plan yet for calculating accurately who is actually in our country and who has left?
Last time I checked, they hadn't.
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